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Johann asked 7 years ago
Yes Pat, Quick question around using the 8 ema to confirm that I am grasping the concept correctly. If you are reliant on trading as an income source or want to steady grow your account you need to:
  1. Limit initial losses
  2. Protect Break even
  3. Protect gains.
This will ensure a steady uptick in your equity curve over time without wild swings. Now what I have found is if a stock trends with the 8 ema or 21 ema once you have a gain you let it work. (Most recent example I can think of are SQ, BA, CAT) But once that trend (8/21 ema) is broken you will usually give back some gains and this is where wild swings in your equity curve will be noticed. As we all know the best trades work right from the start thus if a trade breakouts and falls back below the 8 ema we know the probabilities of that trade working is slim so we cut our losses and move on and you won\\\'t be sitting on dead money? Before using the 8 ema I found myself lots of time being up a couple % for the month but then giving it back and then sitting on dead money where now its like if its up and it works I let it work and if it does not work I sell without hesitation. I am grasping the concept? Its funny but if you study the winners the most gains comes from the trades that respect the 8/21 ema and they work from the start. Thus in a away if the trade does not respect the 8 ema and if it does not work within the first couple of days we sell it because we know its most likely not a winner or as Mark Minervini would say the bus in not on time? All the best, Johann
1 Answers
Pat Walker Staff answered 7 years ago

Good evening Johann,
Your analysis is perfect! You mention that we like solid bases. You mention that we want Volume on the breakout. We want Price to push away. We are QUICK to SELL if it fall back into base in first couple days. Johann, this is wonderful how you mention the 8 ema as the first "trigger" to sell when it first breaks out. After the stock has pushed away from our price we watch the action at 8 ema. If it pushes far enough away we can give our last shares down to the the 21 SMA. Not ema.
If we have a really big cushion we can give our last 10 - 20% down to the 50 day.
Also, and this is very important, we may find entries along the way with a STRONG trending stock to buy some shares back! Bounces off the 8 ema or 21 SMA. For example, GS on 12/7 bouncing off the 8 ema with a volume pickup. That is a spot to buy back a portion of what we sold on the way up.
Johann, YES! You are grasping the concept perfectly. And as you stated, we are NOT going to let a multi-point profit turn into a loss. The best ones just push away quickly.
Great analysis! I Thank You for your input and writing to me.

Sincerely,
Pat Walker